Carents and newburghs

9/4/2024

Did you know the Carent family members were shirttail relations to the Stourtons and Tudors. Alice Carent’s mother, Margaret was daughter of William Stourton, Esq. and Elizabeth Moigne. Her grandfather Sir John Stourton who married Katherine Beaumont. (The Beaumont's were blood relations to the Newburghs.) William’s half-sister Edith Stourton married Sir John Beauchamp. (The Beauchamps were a cadet line to the later Earls of Warwick. Henry Newburgh/deNovoBurgo was the first Norman Earl of Warwick.) Their daughter Margaret married John Beaufort, Duke of Somerset. Their daughter was Lady Margaret Beaufort, first wife of Edmund Tudor, mother of King Henry VII and grandmother of Henry VIII.

I was astounded when I learned the above information, because the "genealogists" peg the Newburghs as being merely merchants in the 15th century. Where that notion came from is a mystery. My friend Stephen provided more information in the next comment.

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Sue Simonich

I am a medieval historian who has been studying the Newburgh family of Dorset for 20+ years.

It all began when I realized the genealogy for this family was cracked! Joseph Gardner Bartlett wrote the first bone fide history in 1914. Through the errors of omission much of his work is provably inaccurate.

I was suffering with the empty nest syndrome, living in a rainy place with no sun, so I set myself up and started doing research. Here I am many years later with two books about the Newburghs under my belt and so much more information that needs an archive.

SUE

9/4/2024 02:14:12 pm

Stourhead was home to the Lords Stourton - they being dedicated Catholics, in the end were fined heavily for it so had to sell. My friend Stephen told me that . . ."the Stourton arms are the only case he knows displaying an 'heraldic map', the county boundary between Somerset and Wiltshire runs through middle of the estate, 6 springs also rise on the estate, 3 in Wilts 3 in Somerset, so the family arms have a 'bend' running across the shield with 3 heraldic 'fountains (blue/white wavy roundels) on either side of the bend."

The Stourtons were related in several way to the Newburghs, but one lord was decidedly nasty. New Kilmington church, the manor house next door once home to the Hartgills, former stewards to Lord Stourton, they had a big falling out. Stourton's men attacked the Hartgills who sought safety in the church tower, where they rained down arrows on the lord's men- a truce was made, the Hartgills went with Stourton to the lord's mansion where father and son were clubbed down and had throats cut, they were buried beneath a floor, but the deed was found out. Lord Stourton was hung in Salisbury, supposedly the noose which did the job hung in the cathedral for centuries!!!"

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